6 Day Wolf Hunt Special For NRA Members!
Time is short and space limited so you would have to book fast! Dates available February 13th thru 26th (choose any 6 consecutive days within that time frame) Special price to NRA Outdoors $2500 plus 5% GST tax Price includes meals, accommodations, and licenses. Client is responsible for cities permits and shipping of wolf hide NRA Outdoors will help with arrangements of shipping and taxidermy.
This wolf was taken the end of January 2013 by repeat client, John. This is his 4th wolf with our outfitter.
Because of the abundance of the population of wolves in this area, wolf hunters have a very high success rate of bringing a wolf home. This particular outfitters specializes in wolf hunts and knows how to set you up for success. The best hunt times are January thru February. We are still taking booking for the 2013 season. Call Greg @ 918 407 2586 or email info@nraoutdoors.com
Alberta Wolf Hunts 
An Alberta Wolf Hunt offers a phenomenal chance to shoot a timber wolf. These are large wolves, standing about 36 inches to the shoulder, and are hunted when winter coats are prime. They come in a variety of colors – many are black (a favorite for most hunters), although just as stunning are the solid white ones. These hunts are held in the scenic foothills of the Alberta Rocky Mountains over bait. The hunter is situated in a comfortable, heated, blind with an advantage point of seeing wolves arrive from various trails. It is a six day hunt. The opportunity of seeing (not for hunting) other species of predators is also great as lynx, cougars, eagles, fox, and coyotes may also feed there! Bring a camera!!!
Is it possible to hunt after Feb. and be successful with a mature wolf. Also what caliber do I need to bring. How many hunter do you need per trip or hunt. I have a friend that wants one also.
WOW! They are so much bigger than I thought! I had pictured them as more the size of a German Shepherd but they are so much bigger! Their heads are more the size of a bear! Scary! Can they be taken with a 5.56 NATO round or is something heavier required?
I am also an NRA Member “Endowment” also. We have this situation in several areas. In the Carolina’s we have the Coyote which we cannot shoot enough to control. They prey on almost anything small enough to kill and eat, small dogs, cats and all small game. The middle south is overrun with an uncontrolled population of “wild” hogs with farmers and ranchers in these areas paying people to hunt them. The uncontrolled wolf population is just another uncontrolled beast of prey. I am sure the wildlife management agencies of the states concerned will manage the hunts to insure the continued existence of the wolf in populations to ensure their survival.
from “Paul ” : “I am sure the wildlife management agencies of the states concerned will manage the [wolf] hunts ”
Paul,
In most cases the states have had absolutely no say in what happened in their state because the wolf has been under Federal protection. Several states are getting back the control that was too long in coming due to rich, anti-hunting groups filing lawsuit after lawsuit.
The wolves are spilling out of Yellowstone at a phenominal rate and decimating the Elk and cattle. Montana, Idaho, Wyoming need to be able to take total control of their eco-environment. The Feds should only take control in those cases of near extinction and relinquish control immediately upon minimum recovery.
Here in Minnesota, the anti-hunting groups filed many lawsuits and finally agreed that when 1800 wolves were counted then control could go back to the state. Well, guess what…. they lied and deceived. Even after we counted over 3000(!) wolves they were still filing lawsuits to get the numbers even higher. We finally got control and had an very limited and tightly controlled hunt this past fall. Finally!
I’m not a wolf expert, but I would definitely use a larger caliber than a 5.56. These wolves are a lot tougher than coyotes. I would use at least a .243 at the least. I’d probably want a .270 or .308 although you wouldn’t want to go much bigger at the risk of damaging the pelt.
A great shot can with a scoped gun can kill a wolf with a .22 WMR. Of course I would never recommend hunting a Timber Wolf with a .22 WMR, but anything larger than a .243 Winchester is excessive and not necessary. JMHO
Absolutely not (on the use of 5.56 NATO). The armed forces use 5.56 NATO FMJ to WOUND the enemy rather than kill them because it takes 2 more soldiers out of action in order to get the wounded soldier to medical help. You don’t want to wouind a wolf (which can weigh almost as much as a man) and have it run off and die only to be lost.
The suggestion of a minimum caliber of .243 Win. is good advice with the added info of choosing a correct bullet type. You’ll want a bullet that expends all of it’s energy in the animal BEFORE it has a chance to exit and make a huge hole in the pelt. Those bullets will include the fragmenting style with thin jackets like polymer-tipped and most hollow points.
Try and contact any predator hunting groups in your area to find specific recommendations of caliber/bullet for wolves. they’ll be knowledgable and helpful.
Same goes for deer hunting, bear hunting, elk hunting, duck hunting, ice fishing, etc.
You are an idiot!
@jJoe64Park – I’m not sure who you are calling an idiot, me or the nice guy that answered my question. Either way, your name calling is totally out of line. I admitted I have never seen a wolf in the wild so knowing or not know their size isn’t that difficult to understand, unless you have a reading comprehension problem. I’ve never hunted wolves. I have successfully hunted deer many times, with various cal. of weapons in my arsenal. I use a larger cal. for the bigger Colorafo deer than I do for the smaller Texas white tail. And I do know bear & elk are much larger and harder to being down so a larger cal. is needed. And I am smart enough to know that NO cal. weapon is to be used in bagging ducks. That’s why I use one of my 12 ga. shotguns for duck hunting. And I know there is such a thing as a rod & reel for ice fishing. Ever heard of them? Also an auger is needed to drill through the ice. It’s so much better than using one of my shotguns. Since you think ANY cal. weapon is great for ducks or ice fishing, it becomes very clear who is the real idiot here!
I am a life member and I have always hated the fact we sponsor these so called wolf hunts. I am not against hunting but I do not think hunting these majestic creatures should be allowed. I don’t even see how someone in a comfortable heated blind can even call himself a hunter or that hunting.
totally agree!!!
100% agreement – I dislike hunting predators. Unless they are the human kind…..
You two are definitely not from one of the state that was forced to take wolves from the federal govt. The Canndian timber wolf that was forcibly put here is not the wolf that was indigenous to this area. It is 50-70 pounds heavier and substantially longer from head to tail. I have been a big game hunter all my life. Five of my best six areas to hunt elk no longer have any. And it is only a matter of time until the last one is invaded as well. The wolf population is growing so rapidly that they are pushing game and non-game species into the people populated areas. I have personally seen several times where wolves have also killed for fun, not for hunger. They can’t go fast enough in my opinion. I wish I could shoot one with a collar and strap the collar to the bumper of the first car I see going to California, or DC. They have unleashed hell on our wildlife. It’s difficult to pass on hunting skills and traditions of my family when there is nothing to hunt. When I have a tag, it’s all I can do to keep myself restrained to shooting one wolf only. But I am law abiding. I just hate what they have done to my state and to the Yellowstone ecosystem.
PS the wolves were never extinct. My brother and I saw two, two years before the the “re-introduction”
Wolves are like any other wildlife species they need to be managed, left unchecked the alternative would not be pretty. I don’t believe we need to apologize for the means used to manage the wolf population, sportman have an obligation to manage this species as we do the deer, elk, coyote, ect;
if you feel like this maybe you should get on some other pansy site for weak minded fools
What makes a wolf more majestic over a whitetail dear or other games species, bear, etc? Some areas have been over populated and hunting is just a way to control the predator population and maintain balance.
Well, for starters, deer, wild turkey, elk, and other wild game are usually consumed at our dinner tables. I would never hunt a wolf unless it placed someone in danger. One of these days, the difference between hunting lesser game and intelligent creatures might sink into your skull.
You might think different if you are from Idaho, I have always been a hunter..Elk, Deer, and any draw that I am lucky enough to get.. Now I never would of went on a wolf hunt, now I think different.. I have seen the wolf introduced and it has decimated the elk and deer herds to where there is no such luck of putting one on the table.. And this is so because everyone wants to protect the wolf, now we have tons of wolfs and no game to harvest that we eat. Deer and elk bring in serious money to small towns that cater to hunters.. I think there is a balance that must be in order, we need to hunt the wolfs it is just our job as conversationalist hunters to do so..
Uhhhh, Brandon, if you really meant to say “conversationalists” I’d have to disagree with you. I think you really meant “conservationalist” and I’d totally agree with you. BIG difference, though. Good luck on yout next deer, elk or moose hunt. Just don’t kill them so you can talk about it (conversationalist)…..
I have to agree with your setiment : (a judgement not founded on proof or certanty) but maybe they hunt to balance the population, well i hope so. I think if you eat it you can hunt it. I think is way more humane to hunt then to bring them to a slaughterhouse but wolf?? maybe they would starve to death in the winter. I think its hard to see something that looks a little like a pet hunted but I don’t know all the facts
Wolves in Yellowstone have descimated the elk herds there. In a few short yrs, less than 10, wolves have reduced the elk pop from over 20,000 to less than 4000. Wolves kill more animals for sport than they eat. Allowed to breed freely, they would totally change the wildlife ecosystems of North America. Wolves are currently out of control in Idaho and soon to spread to other states. They must be managed. Ask any affected rancher in the northern states or Canada.
Well said, Jim. All you folks that say no wolf hunting need to call some hunting guide companies or ranchers in Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming. Wolves have nearly wiped out the game species in some prime game wilderness areas. Also, lot of our taxpayer dollars are paying ranchers to feed the wolves and the ranchers still are not getting paid for many losses. Best estimates are we currently have 4-6 times the number of wolves that were intended when the species was reintroduced to many of these areas. At this point if wolves are not hunted, our tax dollars will be used to hire pro hunters that trap and poison wolves. It is not politically correct to state these facts, but they are still true.
The wolves are NOT the problem, humans are. Nature was balanced very well before we came along and senselessly destroyed everything. Now it is all about money. Go look at the numbers on the Idaho Fish and Game website. Elk populations are up in all areas except for one unit and the fires and logging have had more of an influence on that than wolves have. The state profits greatly off of hunting and that is bottom line, they do not actually care about the animals well being. By the way, I am a rancher in Central Idaho and hunt and fish to eat, not for trophy sport. I don’t need to have heads and hides on my wall to prove I can shoot or to show how manly I am. The elk herds are NOT being decimated, they are dispersing themselves in a different manner, therefore making it more difficult for people like you to shoot them from your pickup or 4-wheeler. I have filled my freezer every year, all I had to do was walk a bit and haul it out. It’s called work.
I have to agree with you Robert, hunting has different meanings to some people. Hunting doesn’t mean shooting from a vehicle. It means “hunt” for your game, enjoy the time in Gods country and the bounty will come with experience and training. Don’t expect to drive out, get your goal, and be home for steak dinner while the locker dresses your kill. Good hunting!
I am an NRA endowment member. I don’t think you understand the balance of nature. I suggest you find out more. Check out the devastation that is caused by the re-emergence of wolf packs in the northern states, and especially in the states of Montana, Idaho and Washington. If uncontrolled, these animals will continue to take livestock from ranchers and, as the pack numbers grow, will eventually become a threat to humans enjoying nature. There is already permitted wolf hunting in Idaho and several other states; and in some, the state wildlife agencies were disappointed that there were not enough takes of wolves and plan to increase or broaden the availability of hunting licenses.
Jerry,
You are 100% right.
Sit in a heated blind, waiting to kill the second most intelligent predator on earth — second only to humans — while it successfully lives in a really cold place. Those hunts are far from livestock that people want to protect.
Hunting does a great service to Nature when we take abundant herbivores, and that is a skill and tradition to continue — what humans have done for a million years.
I agree – I hunt all of the time, and I’m disappointed to see what I do cheapened by calling this hunting. It sounds like it would more accurately be called a wolf shoot.
These wolves are very healthy, you all are exactly right, good observation. But the fact is, they’re getting fat, slick, and healthy on venison, and cattle. Left unchecked, these predators will multiply quickly, and ruin an otherwise balanced ecosystem. Man, is the only predator more powerful than the wolf packs, and we are the only ones that can keep the wolf packs in check. Hunting isn’t for everyone, so to those of you who don’t believe in our sport, good riddance, I say!!! Oh and, save me a tag…!
i am a resident hunter in this area. the ungulate population have been decimated here. i have called in a pack of 30 on an unsucessful elk hunt, and seen signs of 2 more packs in the arrea. think of this hunt as doing my family a favor so we can eat moose deer or elk.
There are plenty of Elk out there to eat if you are a good Hunter. These animals look more like trophy hides then just ones to thin out. Why are you not showing some real old wolfs at the end of life to thin out. Reason…. “MONEY” makers, thats why.
So we should only hunt the ugly creatures?
And if we are over 70 and crippled up , we should not be able to hunt any more?
I have a hard time with this too Jerry. The natural balance is out of whack and if there are too many of these creatures they will attack humans and livestock or starve. Having said that the specimens in the pictures are healthy. I have always tried to cull the weak and old with a clean shot when hunting for culling purposes. Like nature does, to kill the strong and healthy…I have very mixed feelings.
The only problem with that is that the sick and feeble ones are not the breeders.
I hunt all over and there is not “wild” life, all species of North American animals are managed, Human population demands it. Ranges have been modified and populations are keep within the carrying capacity of the area. Predators, while useful, need to be managed also, remember if not for hunting conservation dollars there would not be anything to hunt. They would all be wiped out. Bear hunters, deer hunters, pig hunters, turkey hunters use blinds or stands all the time, I see no difference. Your anthropomorphic reasoning is flawed and has no scientific basis, and could be used for any and all predators .
I concur.
your an idiot.
I agree – as I too am a member. If there is an abundance, it should remain that way. It would be most unfortunate to have them on placed again on the endangered species due to over zealous hunters. If there were issues surrounding protection of cattle or other domestic animals, then controls should be in place. This is should not be a hunting sport. These animals should be left alone. The cost could be better spent on education (Observation only outings) on these animals to appreciate them, not destroy.
How do you propose to “put controls in place” other than hunting? I guess control is a nicer word than shooting. How many people think a wolf is more valuable than say an elk?
Who asked you? Why don’t you mind your own business and keep your opinions to yourself?
Jerry,
Hunting is as much about wildlife management as it is about being out in the cold stalking prey. By looking at the photo’s above, these wolves appear healthy and suficiently fed. If not for hunting, they would overpopulate and increase incedence of disease and starvation. That being said, some have to be culled. Would you rather they just be trapped and euthanized by a veterinarian ? I would find it difficult to hunt these creatures because they remind me of domestic dogs and also because I had a spiritual incident decades ago and the white wolf is my spirit guide. Those few hunters that can do this are actually necessary to the wolves overall survival.
I totally agree.
I totally agree
Jerry, I agree with you 100%. This is a disgrace for the NRA to be a part of this hunt in anyway. When people start to realize that hunting these highly social animals is a totally dishonorable thing to do for any true hunter and stop doing it only then will I be fully proud to be a member of the NRA. I am a 30 year member but am totally disgusted by some of their activities. This hunt being one of them.If you want to be a real hunter try taking the wolf on with Knife.
sounds like a “management” hunt to help the wolf by controlling population and reduce natural death due to over population and lack of food supply. And I seriously doubt if there are any warm and comfy blinds……bring your artic gear and hiking boots!
You can’t manage prey species and leave predator alone…..sheesh.
Seriously do some research on your own—just look at Yellowstone and the elk numbers due to the population of wolves that have not been controlled.
Very thankful these hunts have been opened up in several states now.
You do understand that you are making a human value judgement? It’s OK to kill soy beans or free range chicken but not a wolf? You are a special kind of stupid.
I’m a life member and I believe it’s our heritage to hunt even if it’s a predator hunt to control the wolf population. What about the hunters that hunt coyotes, feral hogs, prarrie dogs, should we not hunt them also or just let them get out of control. Wolves are descimating the Elk and Deer herds, we control Mt Lions the same way. Hunting is a sport and a privilege, if the game is legal to be taken then the hunter has the privilege to take it. As a hunter for myself I can’t wait to take a wolf and have mounted in my home.
I, too, am a life member and I agree with you. Unless these animals are posing some grave danger to humans or the environment I cannot understand wanting to shoot them. Bait piles and heated blinds seem more like “couch potato”sniping than hunting. Let’s follow our craft with honor, not this.
I’m a dog lover!! From what I’ve read the Canadian Wolves that have been transplanted to the U.S. years ago have multiplied successfully, and then some!!!! They are killing Bison, Elk, Deer, and Livestock!! If left unchecked Hunters will not have anything to hunt, and ranchers will need to sell their ranches because of protected wolves?!?! Sensible management is needed for wolves!!! Can you imagine what would haappen if ALL other predators were left unchecked??
hey what’s the cost for the wolf hunt?
Gabriel, the cost of the hunt is $2500 plus 5% GST
Are the wolves killing live stock or being a danger in any way?If not why not leave them alone and go to our borders of Mexico I bet there’s a lot more sportsmen like targets coming over the border and a little more challenging and will be a public service than hunting an animal that is most likely just minding his own business!!! from an ex member Pete
I like your thinking. And it’s free.
Very Good Idea Wolves Should Be Left Alone
AMEN
What the..?!?
Are you suggesting shooting illegal border crossers? I realize that this is a major problem that needs to be solved but even the suggestion of shooting them for this offence is ludicris, illegal and extremely harmful to the hunting and shooting enthusiests in the U.S.
You are nuts to ever put that suggestion in writing. Please visit a mental help professional before it’s too late.
You people are insane. You’re just killing to kill. Hunting is for food. Murder is what this is.
Andy,
If the wolf population is not kept in check they can and will decimate the Elk, Moose and Deer populations. If you look at the Stats in Yellow Stone National Park the Elk Population has taken quite a hit. However, if we are serious about culling wolf numbers then you have to kill 3 females for every male shot. If this is about trophy hunting then every hunter is going to try and kill a 150lbs alpha male which will have very little impact on the wolf population.
Why would someone so against hunting be on a NRA Hunting Website?? Why don’t you try something more your speed…..how about figure skating?!
You are right Andy. I murder thousands of mosquitoes every summer. I love wolves and think everyone should have a wolf skin coat in their closet. I live in Idaho and the game counts two years ago were half the number that we had before wolves were reintroduced. This is an area not even close to yellowstone. Just do the math: 12 wolves introduced now have multiplied to over 1800 in 3 states. Let’s say half are female that have (conservatively) 4 pups survive each year. That comes to 3600 more wolves in just one year for a total of 5400. Next year lets say half are female, 2700, and because of population growth only have 3 pups survive. that’s 8100 new wolves for a total of 12,500 in the three state area. Well, I guess you see where this is going. Do you really think they are just going to stay in the wild and starve? There was a hefty bounty on wolves for many years (including selective poisoning) for a reason. They didn’t just accidentally go away.
Just food for thought. If you love them so much, come adopt a few for pets…….
Pretty lame shooting these wolfs.is that really hunting? a person who would shoot a one of these is a coward. Go to Iraq/afganistan if you really want to hunt. they shoot back.
Have you ever been to a farm or national forest with an overpopulation of predators? I have and it’s very sad thing to see three less than a week old fawn deer ripped to pieces, in an are smaller than 10 acres. They are totally helpless at that age and in an area with a balance of predator and prey, this types of scene in the woods is almost non-existent.
I agree with Jerry above. We had protections in place for wolves, but now many places are doing away with the conservation efforts and hunting them to very low numbers. Wolves are not over populated anywhere. The hunting of wolves when there numbers are just starting to come back is very, very concerning to millions of people. With recent mass shootings this isnt something the NRA should be a part of. I speak as a member myself. I think being a part of hunting wolves, especially at a discount is very irresponsible and will only help to galvanize voices against he NRA.
The NRA should seriously consider ending their affiliations with things like this and help conserve nature instead of helping to destroy it.
Wolves are definitely over populated in many Western States. They don’t belong here anymore, maybe it would be less offensive to you bleeding hearts to poison them to extinction as was done with the native wolves?
They are a danger to domesticated animals pets and little children. I don’t know what you can be thinking.
I gotta go with Jerry on this one. I have been an avid hunter for 46 years in Montana and continue to advance the idea of fair chase and earning what you hunt for. It doesn’t surprise me when people who have no hunting heritage or background view these types of hunts as unsportman like. To each his own but you could offer this for nothing and I would find no pleasure in doing it. I guess that just leaves more for those who find this sporting. Hey, maybe I could teach my son to start shooting the squirrels off the bird feeder when they come in to eat. Nuisance rodents that they are.
Hello,
You said above: “The hunter is situated in a comfortable, heated, blind with an advantage point of seeing wolves arrive from various trails.” This is not a hunt. It is a trap. This makes me sad.
Judy
We completely wipe out the wolf, then bring it back only to kill it for sport. What’s wrong with you people? The wolf is not a deer or elk. There is absolutely no reason to kill wolves. Abundance of wolves? What a joke. Hey client ‘John’, you need to reassess your priorities. Leave the wolves alone so they can exist without being in your gun sights. The pleasure you derive from killing is sickening and what you call hunting I call executions.
I don’t know where you are from Jerry, and I don’t really care. I wonder if you had to deal with the problem in your own backyard you would see it differently. Would you be willing to take a breeding Alpha male with a pack of ten less than 25 miles of where you live? This wasn’t done to Idaho, Montanna, Wyoming or Yellowstone by choice. It was done by force from back east bureaucrats who thought that they knew better than those of us who live here. Arrogant, snotty, rich, liberals, EPA and progressives.
Majestic, until they kill your cattle. Why did WA state spend over $50K to kill a few wolves, when they could have made money? doesn’t make any sense.
I recently joined NRA and I believe in killing for a purpose like eating. Hunting is all well and fine as long as it’s done with a positive purpose. I do not think that killing animals for sport should be acceptable in no way shape or form. By the NRA promoting this sport killing(which is basically what it is) is enforcing people to not respect wildlife and what I believe is a part of people’s descending respect towards our world in general. I had always thought that the NRA stood for high standards and supporting the 2nd amendment with the attitude of doing the right and honorable thing… but I guess I was wrong. I am obviously not the only one that feels this way. I hope that you take your members views that have true respect for wildlife in account when brainstorming for “New Outings.” Maybe plan a more positive event and be a vessel of good instead of death. In closing, if you are going to go hunt a wolf for “Sport,” then do it with YOUR own bare hands and see who wins.
well said
YES…I AGREE!!
You are clearly delusional, are you actually advocating the bare hand killing of wolves in the same way Michael Vick was killing fighting bred pit bulls?
I am not an anti-hunting person but wolf hunting is dog hunting. They live in tight family groups and never bother humans. If you dog got lose and I shot it would it bother you? Besides how much sport is it to shoot a wolf when it walks by after your guide has been baiting them all year in the same spots.
EXACTLY RIGHT!!!! FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DO NOT THINK A WOLF IS A DOG……..HMMM ,,,HAVEN’T LOOKED AT YOUR DOG LATELY OR DID YOU SHOOT HIM!!!!
AS FOR THE GUY WHO THINKS I AM A “POSER” NO I AM AN NRA MEMBER AND WILL BLOW THE ANIMAL AWAY THAT BREAKS INTO MY HOUSE!!!! OH BY THE WAY THE GUY THAT HURTS MY DOG WILL GET THE SAME FATE!!!
These are not fluffy wuffy dog puppies. They are large vicious cunning aggressive, and ruthless killers. So lets just let them run AMMUCK to destroy all the other lesser creatures.
The Canadian Gray Wolf runs in packs of up to twenty wolves. For every one animal they kill to eat, these Canadian wolves kill about three more just for the fun of it. The biologists call it “sport-reflex killing” or “lustful killing”. The Canadian Gray Wolf is a killing machine.
If you do not manage them , then you have a problem like Idaho and Montana , the young Elk , Moose and Deer suffer . There is also older people that can’t tromp up and down the mountians ….
These are federal wolves, as it was the federal government who introduced them into Idaho over our objections. They told the state of Idaho that the wolves would be considered recovered when they had a total of 100 wolves in Idaho . Now they have between 800 and 2,000 wolves and the situation is out of control.
AMEN!!!!
I am. Member and I feel that an ethical hunt to help control the population from exploding and taking out other species is fine with me. Seems that everyone has an opinion anymore. That’s the problem these days , too many thinkers and not enough doers. It’s just a wolf.
For all of our wolf advocates, let’s get together for a night of wolf watching. Surely there will be many scenes of the wolf ripping the guts out of a calf moose, deer, or cow to entertain us. Hope we have good audio. What fun.
Don’t quite know know why we need them anywhere. But, now that there back, appropriate measures of control are essential. Hunting being preferred.
The wolf is just trying to make a living!!! Anybody shooting at you while driving to work!!! Lets protect our gun rights so the buggers on our city streets, who don’t work, are not able to rob, rape and pillage our country!!!
Oh by the way they (dogs) protect our homes as well! THESE ARE DOGS!!!!!!!!!
If you ever met a Wolf face to face ,you would not think dog .
My dad has hunted all my life. When we were growing
up dad put food on the table by hunting.
Hunting is ok by me. But shouldn’t you be out in
pursuit of all animals, not baiting and waiting
For them to walk by? That said, also, shouldn’t
you use as much of the animal as possible, once
killed, shouldn’t u eat them as well as save their
hides? Just a few questions.
What a pile of hogwash! Most of those objecting to hunting wolves on this site, in my opinion, are imposters pretending to be hunters/NRA members. Your hand-wringing sense of fairness to these “poor creatures” is sickeningly overdone and clearly transparent. How about coyotes? Racoons? Bears? Ever go fishing?
Well said.
You’re discounting the wide spectrum of NRA membership. We do have varying views on what constitutes honorable hunting. I’m a staunch Second Amendment supporter and a very occaisional hunter. I eat meat so I respect those that hunt for it. So while I contemplate becoming an Endowment member, I also have difficulty respecting this type of “hunting”. Bait piles and heated blinds don’t represent the kind of rugged fair chase that constitues hunting to me. Killing animals that you’re not going to eat is also anathema to me. If there is a need to reduce Wolf populations so be it. I just can’t find any glory in shooting an animal that’s coming to the lunch that’s been set for it. Make no mistake I am NRA and I belief there are very few who have posted here that are not. We need support more now than ever. I’m convinced this type of “sport” hunting isn’t going to help us do that.
Rod J. :
Wolves, like bear, are wide-ranging predators and trying to find one by “fair chase” is nearly impossible. That’s why wolves and bear have to baited, trapped or (in the case of some bear hunts) run by dogs in order to get close enough for a shot.
Wolf populations need to be controlled just as deer, elk, ferral hogs and beavers. Man introduces them into an area where they may have once been but are not anymore therefore man must control the numbers ergo the rest of the ecosystem will get out of whack.
THAT’S why they shoot wolves, fox, coyotes and bear over bait piles – and,yes, soeties from heated stands.
Well said……hunting is done for many purposes including population control. While I personally would not participate in the “heated shed” type of hunt, I will not condemn those that do.
I am also a NRA “Endowment” member. We have this situation in several areas. In the Carolina s we have the Coyote which we cannot shoot enough to control. They prey on almost anything small enough to kill and eat, small dogs, cats and all small game. The middle south is overrun with an uncontrolled population of “wild” hogs with farmers and ranchers in these areas paying people to hunt them. The uncontrolled wolf population is just another uncontrolled beast of prey. I am sure the wildlife management agencies of the states concerned will manage the hunts to insure the continued existence of the wolf in populations to ensure their survival.
“I am sure the wildlife management agencies of the states concerned will manage the hunts to insure the continued existence of the wolf in populations to ensure their survival.”
I’m rolling on the floor laughing.
The situation is the same here in Indiana. The DNR re-instituted bobcats into the wild a few years ago. Now we are overrun with them. The population of squirrels and rabbits have diminished because of it. Coyotes run rampant as well. This has cause a sharp decline in the deer population. Coyotes are seen almost as regularly as deer. Bobcats are protected but coyotes are not. And neither of them have any natural predators. There are no checks for them. We have to take the coyote population down in order to bring the deer population back up. It’s that way it is. It’s the way it has to be.
For all of you people up in arms about wolf hunts, why don’t you look at where this hunt is in the first place. It’s in Alberta. Canada. This is not a grey wolf of north america. Which, by the way, IS a growing problem that is almost out of control. These wolves up there are on the top of the food chain with no natural predators. Hunting is a tradition that has been around since the beginning of time. I understand that you may not think this would be fun for you, but to call it wrong is ridiculous. Saying that it is “like hunting a dog” is, again, ridiculous. These wolves are over 100 pounds and is not just a “sit in a warm tree stand” kind of hunt. Wolves, much like coyotes, are very illusion and stealthy. Many shots are long and require a good shit. Hence, the fun of this hunt. Get over yourselves.
****good shot, haha. Require a good shot. My bad.
LOL! I think you were right the first time, especially if the wolf gets within 50′!
Absolutely Tyler. I live in Alberta, there are plenty of wolves here. Its not that easy of a hunt, trust me – you need a lot of patience and resolve to have success with a wolf hunt. Too many people have bought in the the lies perpetrated by the anti’s surrounding the whole wolves in Yellowstone debate. Wolves are not endangered people – the wolves in Yellowstone were brought in from Canada and introduced there. Since then they have proceeded to decimate the elk, deer, and sheep herds. But that’s a whole separate topic. Look up the documentary called Crying Wolf – it will open your eyes to the real situation, not the rainbows and unicorns anti-hunting version.
Wolves are nature’s most prolific killing machines. They devastate poplulations of other game animals such as deer, elk, antelope and moose (not to mention domestic cattle and sheep). Like any other predator, there numbers must be controlled. The most effective method of control is legal hunting. Hunting is proven to be the most efficient wildlife management tool. Deer and elk numbers in the Yellowstone area are down 80%, below the point of sustainability, due solely to wolves. Anyone with a brain cannot deny these facts. Most people who are against wolf hunting have probably never been outside their city limits. Advice: make comments on a subject you actually know something about.
Cmon….really, Some of you are going to take some sort of moral code stand on harvesting a top food chain predator. Man has hunted wolves since the dawn of time…to protect his food soarce. If you do not keep the poulation in check you will not have havestable food..we therefore then will just eat GMO corn feed steer and continue to slowly poison ourselves. WAKE UP….it is not a dog anymore than a rat is a gerbil…or a iguana is an alligator.
So, you people don’t kill healthy animals. A guy on here said that they only shoot sick or less than healthy animals. I guess you let trophy deer, elk, etc. walk instead of killing them? What part of the northeast are you liberals from?
TOO MANY PETA people on here making comments!!
Wow!
Where have all the men gone?
Some of us have gotten old ,but still like to hunt.
If killing an intelligent predator is terrible, then Teddy Roosevelt, the great American conservationist, was a horrible human being. Just look at up his lion hunts in Africa. On the contrary, he understood that wildlife management requires keeping a population in balance, and the only thing that balances the population of an alpha predator likes lions or wolves, is hunting. Overpopulation of any species is one of the largest threats to wildlife. An informed environmentalist is a hunter, even of alpha predators they do not eat.
I joined the NRA because I support the second amendment. I also support many wildlife conservation groups, including ones that protect wolves. These animals can be managed without being murdered by these “hunters”.
Lets cut to the chase and acknowledge that the groups that run these hunting expeditions want this practice to continue.. They make it appear that we are being overrun by these animal animals in order to justify their businesses. I get it.
I will acknowledge for all those he-men out there that I’m not a hunter, nor am I a liberal..
“Non Liberal” we would love to hear your suggestions on how you would manage a top level predator without hunting them.
Thank-you NRA for offering these hunts! Predators must be hunted!It is a fact.To those individuals who find these hunts offensive,don’t go!It just leaves more tags available for us who love all forms of hunting.Get the facts and you will understand why NRA supports predator hunting.
“In a civilized and cultivated country, wild animals only continue to exist at all when preserved by sportsmen.” –Theodore Roosevelt
While I wouldn’t enjoy hunting them out of a blind, what other reliable way is there to harvest an animal with a home range of several hundreds of square miles?
Managing the population of top level predators is necessary, without this wolves would over harvest game animals wherever they may be. The only thing that protects out wild places is money! With the digital age here and the dwindling numbers of people visiting/funding our national parks and national forests, increasingly the only people that make these places dollar-able, are hunters. Without abundant numbers of game animals for hunters to pursue what will be the economic driver that preserves our wild places. Look at what happened with the Hetch Hetchy Valley, it is a perfect example of what I’m talking about. Not enough people where going there and it was flooded to establish a water source for San Francisco. Taking of a biologist approved number of wolves per area is the right thing to do.
Wolves need to be controlled. Man manipulates ALL species on earth in order to try and balance out what nature used to be able to do. We have regulated hunting seasons with higher quotas during over abundance and smaller quotas – or closed seasons – following harsh winters or disease kills.
Minnesota has a larger population of wolves than all 5 of our nearby states COMBINED and we have been seeing/enduring the results for the past ten years. Here in the middle of the state wolves used to be non-existant and our whitetail deer hunting was excellent but w/o an over-abundance. Seven years ago a pack of 8 wolves moved into our area and decimated our deer population for a couple of years and then started eating calves in the spring. The Feds came in and wiped out the entire pack because they are not supposed to be in this more populated area. Our deer herd took three more painful years to mostly recover. We’re back to about 80% of what we had back in 2005. I never want to have to go through that again and yet the folks in the western states have to put up with the decimation of their elk herds (& therefore, many livelihoods) year after year due to over-zealous anti-hunting groups with too much money and not enough brains. They live in the big cities and have little knowledge of the wilds or wildlife – but that has never stopped them.
according to the Minnesota fish and game department there are 3000 wolves and 100,000 white tail deer in your state. 2012 numbers. Plenty still to kill .leave the wolves alone.
Listen to what you are saying 3000 wolves!!!! when they were originally “introduced” they were supposed to be kept at a sustained level of 150 or 15 breeding pairs. I think they are over their limit.
According to my little calculator, 3,000 wolves that kill 1 deer each a day means they kill 1,095,000 in a year! That’s 11 times the actual deer population in Minnesota! Yeah, I know wolves run in packs so they wouldn’t each be killing a deer but would “share” the kill. If we assume that there are 10 in the pack, that’s still more than the 100,000 deer population in a year. If we further assume they supplement their diet with sheep, cattle, moose or elk every other day, wouldn’t that still decimate the entire deer population.in a year or 2? OK, let’s assume they kill and eat more than once a day,.then aren’t all the deer gone in less than a year? I don’t claim to be an expert on wolves or their eating habits, but if my assumptions are anywhere near close, wouldn’t thinning the wolf packs seem to be logical? If the Minnesota deer herds are just beginning to be replenished, do we really want to see them decimated again? If some of you people want to protect the wolf, why aren’t you just as concerned about the deer, elk, moose, sheep, cattle and other animals that will die because of the wolf? Why should it be the wolf above all others? Whatever you think, I’m sure the cattle and sheep ranchers in the area will disagree with you.
Yes, 3000 wolves with a population of 100,000 deer is a formula for extinction for the deer. Wolves are not the only predator either. Wolves need to be controlled.
Perhaps change the name to The Canadian Rifle Association?
I have no qualms with hunting wolves if the purpose is to control the population. In order to achieve a desired number you will need to kill 3 females for every male shot. This will control the population and in ten short years will achieve a manageable number. Killing trophy Alpha Males weighing 150lbs plus will have no impact at all on the population. I understand that in some isolated studies they tried to address deer populations with feed containing sterilization tablets. Unfortunately, it did not achieve the desired results.
Leave them alone, then mother nature can thin them out with mange like she does around here with yotes and let them suffer till they die! She’s also thinning our deer herds with sickness that nobody wants to witness them dying!
First off, I don’t understand how anyone can not agree with getting wolf pelts if you eat meat. I personally want to put the pelt on my Jacket. They keep you very warm in Alaska. I don’t actually want to shoot them just for fun, I want to use their much need pelt just as most of you want to eat beef, chicken or pork. I am a new member to the NRA and I am sad to see so much anger in peoples posts. I personally think it is important to respect other peoples ideas even if I don’t have to agree with them. I would never post a mean spirited post. What ever happened to agree to disagree?
I was disgusted when I saw the wolf hunt in the NRA email, but I am glad to see how many people agree that the sport killing of wolves is wrong. I’m a hunter myself, but I only kill what I will eat. I didn’t join the NRA to support sport killing.
WTH!
While some of us may disagree with this specific instance of NRA involvement in a wolf hunt, I hope we all can agree on the importance of building an ever stronger NRA to stand against the destructive forces of the current administration and the harm it wants to do to the Second Amendent. Respectfully disagree among ourselves, but remain focused upon our commitment to the Constitution and continue to encourage others to join the only organization that stands between those of us who value the right to bear arms and those who want to destroy it.
Wolves are such cuddly cute creatures, hmm, lets put you out there with them, without a weapon, maybe a bag of dog treats instead, and see if they are so warm and cudly now. I have hunted in an area (Teton National Forrest, WY) and have seen first hand the effects of what these cudly creatures can do. They are top shelf killing machines that are out of control. Imagine if you will, owning a female dog. Don’t have her spayed, but just let her run free in the neighborhood. Chances are you will soon be so overrun with puppies you won’t be able to walk for tripping over them. So it is with the female wolves. Once the reach maturity, they are either pregnant, getting pregnant, or having a litter. NO self control. Then, imagine the pack having to feed all these hungry mouths. They rip through a calf elk like it was a candy bar. You have you head up your butt if you think for one second that the problem is not there. They have to be hunted. Period.
Steve makes some good points, but …..
I think if asked specifically what some hunters object to you will find that it may not be the hunting of wolves in general, but the sitting on your ass, doing nothing, over bait in a heated blind that makes this so contentious.
I personally wouldn’t enjoy hunting anything I didn’t track and stalk. It’s all about “the hunt” not “the kill”. Some of my best memories and hunts ended with me not taking a shot.
So you think that people that are older and no longer can stand up to tracking an animal are no longer entitled to hunt . The people that hunt , and from a blind some heated out number the trackers by a large number in most states . Get over it let each person do what he or she wants it is none of your business .
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Few issues stir up more sentiment than wolves. But let’s keep some perspective. First for those who rant about “killing dogs,” I suggest you learn more about this. Many attempts have been made to domesticate wolves, and wolves have been found to be untrustworthy after six months of age. They are wild animals and not poodles. As for those who “only kill something I will eat,” have a good meal of skunk, coyote, oppossum, bobcat, rat, etc. Note that this hunt is in Canada, so any discussion about the “re-introduction” of wolves is stupid, Canada’s wolves are not even close to endangered. Finally, anyone who argues against hunting these, or any other animal, has never had, or did not listen in class, Hunter Education. Hunting is first and foremost a tool for Conservation of species, limits are constantly adjusted to make sure the species survives. Also, hunters go through “stages” of hunting, Trophy being just one of five. Stop watching “Bambi,” and learn what vital economic, and Conservation role hunting fills.
I agree. They need controlled and the best method of doing so is hunting, PERIOD. If you dont agree with the method than dont hunt. But to be derisive and angry at those who do is narrow minded to an alarming degree. I am a lifelong NRA member and have hunted all over including Africa. Where they hunt leopards by hanging bait in trees or with dogs. If you were to tell them it wasnt fair, ethical or sportmanslike, well they would just think your an idiot because there is no other way. So if this is the best way to hunt wolves than so be it. It saddens me to see so many people attacking others over hunting an animal. It the same type of attacks and reasoning the liberals use against guns. Dogs! REALLY?
The numbers are so out of balance in this area that there are NO limits on hunting wolves!
For all of you who keep harping about the damage wolves have done to Yellowstone, according to the U.S. Fish and Game commission there are 80 wolves in the park and 22,000 elk. Seems like some of you should check out the facts before you rattle on about the horrors of wolves. In fact the park is in better ecological condition now that the wolves are back than before.Check out facts before you go off and starting shooting animals that you are not going to eat just for the “sport”
For all you that are contemplating going on a wolf hunt I suggest you go someplace that has them and meet a few first. We have a 130lb grey male and he is every bit a part of the family. All dogs come from wolves. If you like to eat dog than maybe Wolf hunting is for you, if not why kill them?
The Wolf Debate
We Are the Lucky Ones!
In reading the string of comments on the rights and wrongs of wolf hunting it seems logical to put some grounded perspective on the subject. By suggesting some levity on the topic, I already know that 10% of the reading audience will be lost and gone forever in terms of their willingness to listen to a view any different of their own. Their mind shuts down once they reach a point where the brain signals a foreign topic. I also know another 20% will be lost and gone forever because they will disengage from the content of this message as they fast track their semblance of a response. They are on defense and time is wasting in terms of drafting up a reply. That leaves a smattering of readers who hold a smorgasbord of different ideas.
Those different ideas cascade around the wolf topic like a figure skater on ice. They spin and twirl and jump. Sometimes they land on their feet and sometimes they come crashing down seemingly never able to catch their balance. As readers, sometimes the message seems spot on whereby we give the author a 10 and for others, the same topic gets a ‘DQ’. Very seldom are we in concert and unanimous in our verdicts. That is who we are, the culture we live in and that of course, is why we are the lucky ones.
The wolf dilemma is one of those open ended and perpetual debates. There will never be a conclusion. The debate may recess like a setting sun but just as certain as the sun comes up tomorrow, it will engage again. Sound biological science opens the door for the majestic wolf to be managed just like other game species only to be threatened by data tossed about in the howling wind by self proclaimed experts. The debate will continue as long as there is a voice but again, that is why we are the lucky ones.
There are two components of the debate that are far more important than the debate itself. One is either in us personally or not. It is part of our DNA or it isn’t. That component is the ability to say what we believe in all the while respecting what others say as well. It means we speak but we listen as well and we do it in a respectful fashion. Agreed, that isn’t always easy to find but at the same time, those who choose a different path, are outrageously obvious. “They” are the fanatics. The name callers and the ones who for some reason feel that they need to end the conversation with an upper hand. In the wild conversation concerning the management of wolves, we can agree to disagree and still follow the same compass. It’s when we belong to the same passionate groups and disagree to a point where we are choosing sides that we become lost and our collaborative efforts are marginalized. When we are part of the same passionate group who undeniably have more in common than we are apart, the danger of ‘winning debates’ through the stubbornness of our position is what fractures our group and in the end those same cooperative efforts.
The second component is the ability to be able to truly understand the right we are empowered with called ‘Freedom of Speech’. In today’s world there aren’t many of us who don’t have a personal attachment to a military serviceman or woman who has given so much for us. Too many of us know those who have given the ultimate sacrifice. Most recently, we witnessed the emotional tribute to Staff Sgt. Clint Romesha, a Medal of Honor recipient. Romesha, just like thousands of men and women ahead of him, fought gallantly for us. We live in a country, a great country where for decades our men and women in uniform have protected our rights including the right of free speech. We need to keep our eye on the ball. We need to remember to remember. We can debate and we can argue but we need to stay grounded.
Saying your piece in the wolf debate is your right. You can thank Staff Sgt. Romesha and thousands of others for that right. Saying your piece in the proper context is your duty and your obligation. Keep talking and keep debating. Done right, it is a healthy thing and part of the fabric of our country. Just remember to remember. We live in a great country where our voices can be heard and that, my friend, is why we are the lucky ones.
Scott Marvin
NRAO
Awesome Admin! I can agree totally with that!
I apologise for the numerical error. The number of deer in Minnesota according to the Minnesota Dept. of Natural Resourses is 900,000 to 1,000,000 deer. Ten time the number that was in error. This can be verified on their website. The wolf population has maintained at 3000.
I cant believe that we have so many left wing bleeding hearts writing in. It is more proof to the reason we have elected an idiot into the Whitehouse. They live among us!
Don, your comments are worthless when you cant discuss the subject, just call people names. you live among us!
I guess that anyone who doesn’t want to kill animals just for the sake of killing them is a left wing bleeding heart . Interesting !!! One of the main reasons that the NRA is getting such a bad reputation among the general public is that certain members feel that we should just kill anything we want for any reason we want. If there is a legitimate reason to kill a wild animal other than for the thrill of killing I can understand but killing just to kill doesn’t get it with the public or many of or members in this day and age. Don, I have been member of the NRA for 30 years but with attitudes such as yours the future of our organization is in grave danger. There is room in the NRA for all beliefs as long as the focus is a belief in the 2nd amendment. I own many firearms , probably more than most of our members and if not wanting to kill something for the sake of killing makes me a bleeding heart so be it.
Hunting is used to balance the numbers of predators and prey. The wolf debate has been overpopulated ny deceptive liars since the beginning. The population “goals” have been exceeded and the wolf lovers will not relent and allow any take without threatening the lives of the hunters. Too many act like tree hugging nutjobs and speak out without knowledge of the debate. Predators and nuisance animals, like skunks, opossum, badgers, are not what most people consume at dinner, if it makes you feel morally superior to criticize hunters, go for it, but don’t also claim to represent normalcy!
Finding game trails, spots that the prey feeds, waters and beds is the first and probably most time consuming part of hunting. This is year round observation, not just grab a rifle, go sit somewhere, and bring home dinner. On a hunt, say for deer, all the knowledge previously mentioned is great, but I would still expect to have to hike to “my preferred spot” or to hike to another spot if my spot wasn’t giving me opportunity.
And when hunting other animals, the same would apply. Wolves have been hunted this way since before we can remember. Don’t forget, 250 years ago there was no game management except for Indians hunting and wolves were never overpopulated. Nature, and the minor hunting of Indians, is all there was. The bears, mountain lions, elk, moose and other animals kept wolves in check. Humans were not necessary to maintain a natural balance.
“Guided hunts”, especially those that provide heated blinds that you sit in, nice and cozy to wait for prey to walk to a spot you can shoot it, is not what I consider hunting. It is a money making venture and people pay much, much more than what the same “hunt” would cost if they had done the ground work and observation to get their prey.
It seems that this type “hunt” is for people that like to talk about the size of their trophy rather than the trials and tribulations of the hunt or how much meat they put in the freezer and the nice pelt they will make gloves, jackets, boots or whatever from. They attract people with money to burn, big spenders that need to talk about how much the trophy cost rather than how challenging or difficult the hunt was. Going on a safari (hunt), no matter what country it is held in or what game is being “hunted” is not hunting to me, it is for trophy, and paid for, not earned.
If management is necessary, call it that, don’t call it hunting.